Thursday, December 29, 2005

Talk About A Devolution- Taken From HT

This is an awesome article i read in HT.


THERE'S SOMETHING almost `magical' in the claims made by the faithful and those with a yen for reason. It seems that most people -- on both sides of the clashes about religion and science raging in the US -- share an opinion that undermines the ability of religion and science to deal with the complexity of the material world and the mystery of creation.
The difference between belief in magic and an appreciation of mystery has never been clearer than in the debate over `intelligent design' and the alleged challenge it presents to evolutionary biology. Our predicament is simple: We humans know -- and are capable of knowing -- far less than we would like to know about how the world came to be and what kind of beings we are. For all our inventiveness, what we don't know still dwarfs what we do know. In the words of Wes Jackson, a biologist and sustainable-agriculture researcher, we are fundamentally ignorant. That doesn't mean we know nothing, but simply that we don't know enough to understand as much as we would like, as deeply as we desire.
What to do in the face of those limits? One possibility is to acknowledge them and understand life as an endless engagement with the mystery that we can, at best, only partially comprehend. Another approach is to craft magical `solutions' that purport to give definitive answers. Unfortunately, too many take this latter path.
This is obvious in the arguments of supporters of intelligent design, an approach that holds that "certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause rather than an undirected process such as natural selection."

Unlike traditional creationism, this approach doesn't identify God as the designer, though it's nearly impossible to find an intelligent-design proponent who doesn't believe in such a God. But the shift from God-as-creator to unidentified-designer is strategic, not principled; by declining to inject religion directly into the debate, intelligentdesign campaigners can make arguments that appear to be rooted in a call for objectivity -- the `teach both sides' rhetoric.
Instead of arguing for the supe riority of intelligent design, its backers simply argue it should be taught as a competing scientific theory alongside evolution.
The problem, of course, is that intelligent design is not open to being tested experimentally and has no basis in science. It is speculative philosophy that should appropriately be taught in a course that deals with various cultures' origin myths. Such treatment is not disrespectful of people's religious beliefs, but simply intellectually honest.
Polls in the US suggest that most people disagree. In one survey last year, 65 per cent of people favoured the teaching of creationism (not just intelligent design, but traditional Christian creationism) together with evolution in science classrooms, and 37 per cent thought creationism should be taught instead of evolution.

Secular people who believe science is a more compelling way to resolve this question tend to find this perplexing, at worst, maddening. As one person put it in casual conversation with me, "Why can't they (creationists) just accept that evolution is the answer?"
While I also weigh in on the evolutionary theory side of this debate, I am uncomfortable with the declaration that there is any `the answer' concerning the origin and development of life. Is not a belief in science's ability to provide definitive answers also a kind of mag ical thinking, a willingness to believe beyond our capacity to know? Could there be forces beyond evolution-through-natural-selection also at work that we don't yet understand? Can we be sceptical of mystical assertions and yet open to alternative avenues of inquiry?

Both religion and science, taken down these limited magical roads, impoverish our imaginations. But the problem isn't that of religion or science per se; the best traditions in both realms don't talk in such absolutes.
Science is based not on claims of absolute truth, but on evidence marshalled to support a theory. It works on the principle of falsifiability: Ideas must be capable of being proven false to be scientifically valid. Rather than saying something is true, we can only say that to date it has not been proven false.
And, of course, the history of science is a history of change, as claims once widely accepted give way to more robust ideas.

Scientists know this, as do many lay people. But in a culture that glorifies the products of the scientific method -- especially dazzling hightechnology machines -- many believe that science offers definitive answers. In that sense, culture corrupts science by demanding magic.
Much religion, on the other hand, is based on claims of truth. But the best interpreters of religious traditions steer the discus sion of faith away from claims of certainty and toward ongoing engagement with the questions.
Jim Rigby -- a progressive theologian and pastor of St. Andrew's Presbyterian Church in Austin, TX -- puts it this way: "Religion and science conflict only when one or both forget their proper bounds. When religion makes competing claims with science it is like a retina moving to the front of the eye; it cannot help but stand in its own light." For Rigby, "The proper concern of religion is not declarations of truth, but the search for meaning."
On the origins of life, evolutionary theory appears to be a compelling framework. It is folly to disregard it out of a need to believe in religious magic. But it also is folly to believe evolutionary theory is the last word on the subject and all that remains is to work out the details.
A more sensible path is to acknowledge that we live in a material world and are part of creation.
We can look at the material world and be grateful for how some scientists have helped us understand, in limited ways, its workings. And we can be disappointed in the way some science has contributed to the degradation of the world's ecosystems, in large part through arrogance and an underdeveloped sense of our intellectual limits.

We can look at creation and be grateful for the ways that some religious people have helped us understand, in their own ways, its meaning. And we can be disappointed in the way some religion has encouraged people to narrow the scope of inquiry into the meaning of human existence, in large part because of that same arrogance and problems with comprehending limits.

As we struggle with the timeless questions about the meaning of creation, we face the urgent problem of creating sustainable systems in the material world. This is the task of our moment in history, and to succeed we will need the best of both these traditions.

The writer is professor of journalism, University of Texas, US and author of Citizens of Empire: The Struggle to Claim Our Humanity

Wednesday, December 28, 2005

Archives -Midnight Panic

What Midnight Panic U Ask?

Mark Anthony Chavez II's Band
Ex-Adema
Vocalist!!!,Awesome Singer(need i say more?).... love him (christian love of course) He split with Adema in Sept 2004 and I've been bloody waiting for his new band and his release.

Okie guys u have to go to midnightpanic and check out their songs its toooooo good.
Man!

They realeased their album(MP) today.(limited Version)
Man uhh can someone get it for me btw? Cuz im kinda broke... Hell I AM BROKE (this is what happens if u have a GirlFriend in the same college.)

So What The HELL ARE U WAITING FOR????? CLICK HERE

Here Are The Lyrics
Give Me One Chance
Look to the future
And not to the past
All of these lessons
Have led me too fast

Cause when you get caught
Under fear and regret
You have to remember
That you can repent

I always get close to reaching your door
But somehow I freeze and fall to the floor
I ask myself questions
I try to ignore what's getting at me

Give me one chance before it's gone
Before you walk away
Take another chance before the world
Will swallow me in vein
Give me one chance before it's gone
Before you walk away
Take another chance before the world
Will bring me down in vein
D'you believe in the drama you've made
All of your actions have made it this way
Does anything make you question your faith
I'm trapped in myself with no way to escape

I always get close to reaching your door
But somehow I freeze and fall to the floor
I ask myself questions
I try to ignore what's getting at me
Give me one chance before it's gone
Before you walk away
Take another chance before the world
Will swallow me in vein
Give me one chance before it's gone
Before you walk away
Take another chance before the world
Will bring me down in vein

Will bring me down in vein

Before we fall apart
Give me one chance before it's gone
Before you walk away
Take another chance before the world
Will bring me down in vein

Let me go, let me go,
Take everything away
Theres nothing that can break us
So everything will be ok
I always get close to reaching your door
But somehow I freeze and fall to the floorI ask myself questions
I try to ignore what's getting at me
Give me one chance before it's gone
Before you walk awayTake another chance before the world
Will swallow me in vein
Give me one chance before it's gone
Before you walk awayTake another chance before the world
Will bring me down in vein

Will bring me down in vein

Before we fall apart
Give me one chance before it's gone
Before you walk away
Take another chance before the world
Will bring me down in vein

Will bring me down in vein

Archives -Sandpeople

Why I Love Sand People.
Cuz
1. My Fav sis (bavan) is from the Gulf pronounced [geu-llf] (sorry
christine your #2)
2. The've got something(too much of it actually) anybody would kill for
-too many damn irritating mallus. No wonder the iraqi's attacked Kuwait.I mean look at this more than 80% of the population in the gulf are mallus and
abt 75.9% of them are irritating.
3.Acc to a recent survey done by NOTV 95% of your time is spent watching
footages based on Amerikaner soldiers killed in Iraq and watch stupid people
cry for world peace. So thats great right? Entertaintment... Die Amerikaners
DIE!!!Acc to my Sociology textbook XII Std. (A Maharshtra State Education Board
recognized one mind you) many people in India do not have entertaintment so
they indulge in the only entertaintment they have SEX, hence India has a
MASSIVE Poplulation.So like i said earlier if it werent for sandpeople .....[cries like the women in
beauty pageatns after they win]
4.I've got 3 Uncles and 4 Aunties Livin there who always gimme gifts so
uh no 4 is taken care of.
5. Hmm lets see okay ill go with uncle sam on this one. The've got OIL!!!You know like they say Gimme OIL!!! Yeah Gimme OIL!!! Woohoo! [no?]
6. Oh yeah My girlfriend is one of the sandpeople so uh yeah this ones for her.
[makes those rolling eyes]
7. They are they only cowards in the whole world who chanlenge the infidel
Amerikaners.I Mean someone has to do the job right?
8. I think its damn hilarious when Ossama chants "Fatwa Fatwa!!!" in
sandpeople language.Watch Southpark (episode) Ossama has farty pants.
9.I love it when the dumb Iranian President acts over confident and makes remarks
about wiping Israel of the map.[sigh][if only he knew, if only HE KNEW]
10. I love irritating my Girlfriend by singing the sandpeople song..... It goes
like this A one,A two and A three....
Sandpeople Sandpeople
Sandpeople Sandpeople
Taste Like Sand
Talk Like People
SandpeopleSandpeople

Fatwa Fatwa!Chant with Ossama!
SandpeopleSandpeople
Hakka Hakka Dakka Dakka DAkka
Amerika AmerikaFatwa Fatwa!
OHH Jihad Jihad!
SandpeopleSandpeople.